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Some help with muzzles please

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I've been doing muzzle studies and no matter how many times I study the face of animals (even my dog when he's sleeping) I just can't seem to get the muzzle right. I'll upload a few pics later when I can get to my scanner and ask for a redline but hopefully I could maybe get some advice first or maybe a site that might help. Anything on the subject is appreciated. Thx in advance. ^^



First pic of muzzle sketches. Please redline if you can.



More muzzle practices. A redline on any one of those faces would really help.



Are you going for more cartoony or realistic? Would you like a realistic muzzle redline with some cartoony variations/examples?



I was going for realistic at first but then I was going to make a cartoon muzzle off of that so having cartoon variations would help alot.


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