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    <description>A discussion about Vizon's Sketches in the Sketchbook Pages group, started by KoOkY!.</description>
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      <title>KoOkY!</title>
      <description>&lt;img src="http://www.jaxpad.com/files/user_pic/file/1340/small/avatar2.png" style="padding:5px;float:left;"&gt;Hmmms, yeah pose like that might do better w/o a jacket on but maybe gloves. Hehe. Love what you did with that avatar btw!! </description>
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      <title>Vizon</title>
      <description>&lt;img src="http://www.jaxpad.com/files/user_pic/file/176/small/Avatar_Jasper.jpg" style="padding:5px;float:left;"&gt;Sketching out a potential entry for Boxcutter's TP featuring Kangaroo Jack. I like how it's turning out so far. Hope I can get his jacket and gloves looking right...mmm...or maybe I'll just leave 'em off.</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 04:11:18 -0000</pubDate>
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      <description>&lt;img src="http://www.jaxpad.com/files/user_pic/file/176/small/Avatar_Jasper.jpg" style="padding:5px;float:left;"&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Fru said:&lt;/strong&gt; If you are looking for Highland bull references, I have one for you! I took this photo in Scotland! Apparently his name is "Hamish" ... XD

Hope it is of some use :9&lt;/blockquote&gt;


Awesome! &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;Muchos&lt;/b&gt; gracias&lt;/i&gt;, Fru! I can for sure use such a reference.</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 05:59:49 -0000</pubDate>
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      <description>&lt;img src="http://www.jaxpad.com/files/user_pic/file/1507/small/Monsthouette.jpg" style="padding:5px;float:left;"&gt;If you are looking for Highland bull references, I have one for you! I took this photo in Scotland! Apparently his name is "Hamish" ... XD

Hope it is of some use :9</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 02:00:32 -0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Vizon</title>
      <description>&lt;img src="http://www.jaxpad.com/files/user_pic/file/176/small/Avatar_Jasper.jpg" style="padding:5px;float:left;"&gt;Hmm...alright. Yeah, the "getting into details too soon" is a flaw of mine I've been working on for quite some time. 30-60 second figure drawings really help with that. I should start doing that - even if it's just on my own. Schedule a night for going to a public place just to sketch people. After all - unless they're asleep they're moving around and I'll have to draw quick. Like at Union Station. 
Thanks!</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 14:32:44 -0000</pubDate>
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      <description>&lt;img src="http://www.jaxpad.com/files/user_pic/file/2055/small/happypie2.jpg" style="padding:5px;float:left;"&gt;Wow, I really love the sketches you did of the dog's fur patterns and I adore the closeup of the nose where you've drawn all the little details...

I know you mentioned this a long time ago,
"I am so frustrated with myself, because I can see they are bad and wrong - too stiff and not natural looking, but despite my extensive experience with figure-drawing classes, it seems as soon as I stop taking the classes, my figures become stiff and forced again."

But I wanted to suggest maybe drawing on bigger paper would help? It might help you to loosen up if you aim to fill the whole page with one figure, and I noticed that with many of your sketches you start putting in details very soon, maybe practicing doing more loose sketches made up of ovals and circles would help? Trying to lay out the whole body before you focus on specific features... :)

And I agree with your sister in that the calf in "New Father" looks very cartoony compared to the adult. I really like the muscles on your minotaurs, they're drawn very well. :)</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 10:14:26 -0000</pubDate>
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      <description>&lt;img src="http://www.jaxpad.com/files/user_pic/file/176/small/Avatar_Jasper.jpg" style="padding:5px;float:left;"&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Om said:&lt;/strong&gt; I really like "New Father" - it pulls an "Awwww" reaction.
"Angry Buisnesstaur" has a lot of movement, I really like it too!&lt;/blockquote&gt;


My sis liked that one too, but she thinks I should make the baby more calf-like. I probably will. Need to define his arm and the rest of him a little better too me thinks. 

Everyone likes the businesstaur it seems - so I will probably finish him. The father and the warrior have also been favorited by a couple folks so I might actually return to the warrior - beef up his rump a bit and ink him (beef, heh heh!). 

I also have a request for a Highland-type shaggy minotaur as a barber which should be fun. </description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 03:57:56 -0000</pubDate>
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      <description>&lt;img src="http://www.jaxpad.com/files/user_pic/file/1853/small/TentacleFooIcon.jpg" style="padding:5px;float:left;"&gt;I really like "New Father" - it pulls an "Awwww" reaction.
"Angry Buisnesstaur" has a lot of movement, I really like it too!</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 03:47:19 -0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Vizon</title>
      <description>&lt;img src="http://www.jaxpad.com/files/user_pic/file/176/small/Avatar_Jasper.jpg" style="padding:5px;float:left;"&gt;Hot dog! It works! Check it out - I am back in scannerland!

Some not-so-frequent narcissistic doodles, inspired when I first really discovered Makani, trying to understand my own face (Ha). I meant to go more cartoony, but first I wanted to get a plain simplified version down on paper to start with. Actually, I think I do have some more cartoony versions I moved on to (somewhere around here)...I'll see if I can find them.

Sooo weird to draw yourself in profile...cause you never really see your face from the side.

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      <pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 23:46:51 -0000</pubDate>
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      <description>&lt;img src="http://www.jaxpad.com/files/user_pic/file/1507/small/Monsthouette.jpg" style="padding:5px;float:left;"&gt;Awesome!! I like the Angry Businesstaur the best :D I really love the highlighting on that bluish one ... so nice and smooth ...</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 04:48:26 -0000</pubDate>
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      <description>&lt;img src="http://www.jaxpad.com/files/user_pic/file/2061/small/anothericon.jpg" style="padding:5px;float:left;"&gt;these are really cool Vizon. And the fur direction pic is really useful. ^^</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 03:23:11 -0000</pubDate>
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      <description>&lt;img src="http://www.jaxpad.com/files/user_pic/file/176/small/Avatar_Jasper.jpg" style="padding:5px;float:left;"&gt;Well I got my scanner this afternoon, but the lady gave me the wrong power cord. So I'm still using the camera, unfortunately. But since these are not the intended finished pieces, it's not so bad.
Here is a study I did on the flow of cow fur:

&lt;img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v371/Vizon/CowFurStudy1.jpg"&gt;

I haven't utilized it yet, but if I ink one of these sketches I will. Here I did several more minotaur sketches, continuing my current obsession. I am still trying to figure out which one I want to actually finish though. Maybe you all can help me out. Which one of these is worth finishing off with ink and Painter colors?

&lt;img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v371/Vizon/Minotaur_NewFather.jpg"&gt;
"New Father"

&lt;img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v371/Vizon/Minotaur_AngryBusinesstaur.jpg"&gt;
"Angry Businesstaur"

&lt;img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v371/Vizon/SmokingMinotaur.jpg"&gt;
"Smoking Minotaur"

And this one I messed with in Photoshop after importing it and I really like how it came out. I might poke at it some more though. Definitely want to finish this one. Any suggestions would be much appreciated.
&lt;img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v371/Vizon/Minotaur_female.jpg"&gt;

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      <pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 02:58:28 -0000</pubDate>
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      <description>&lt;img src="http://www.jaxpad.com/files/user_pic/file/1416/small/kynlargeletterconjaxpad.jpg" style="padding:5px;float:left;"&gt;Oh, no I have one, but it's packed because I'm moving.  I almost mentioned the fact that it's been acting really strangely lately and I'm wondering if it's on its way out.  There are times when it simply won't work, but I still seem to be able to get some life out of it eventually.  But who knows how long that will last?

I agree with the used method of acquiring expensive items.  My scanner came with my in-law's computer, and they had no intention of using it.  Mine had gone out years before, so it was a convenient boon.  But definitely low-quality...

Anyway, paying $15 for a used $100-200 item, IMO, is definitely worth the gamble.</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 17:39:28 -0000</pubDate>
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      <description>&lt;img src="http://www.jaxpad.com/files/user_pic/file/176/small/Avatar_Jasper.jpg" style="padding:5px;float:left;"&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;strong&gt;kynliod said:&lt;/strong&gt; Bleh, I've been doing the digital photo thing too.  =P  I didn't notice that yours were photos though, although I suppose I should have since they are discolored.  Good luck with the scanner thing, I hope it works out!&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well if it's a money issue that's keeping you from getting one, I would recommend &lt;a href="http://www.craigslist.org/about/sites.html"&gt;Craig's list&lt;/a&gt;. It's like...Garagesaletopia. Or maybe thriftopia. You can find almost anything on there and it's all people trying to get rid of stuff in your area. I saw a scanner for $10 the other day. The one I'm getting is $15. It's a bit of a gamble, as it's not new, but I have the person's email and phone # in case it doesn't work. Anyway $15 for a working scanner is pretty darn good. I've paid more than that for a meal.</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 14:20:15 -0000</pubDate>
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      <description>&lt;img src="http://www.jaxpad.com/files/user_pic/file/1416/small/kynlargeletterconjaxpad.jpg" style="padding:5px;float:left;"&gt;Bleh, I've been doing the digital photo thing too.  =P  I didn't notice that yours were photos though, although I suppose I should have since they are discolored.  Good luck with the scanner thing, I hope it works out!</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 10:24:32 -0000</pubDate>
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      <description>&lt;img src="http://www.jaxpad.com/files/user_pic/file/176/small/Avatar_Jasper.jpg" style="padding:5px;float:left;"&gt;Actually - I might be finally getting a scanner tomorrow or the next day. At last I'll be able to simply scan my drawings and stop with the yellowed digital photos :P </description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 04:23:25 -0000</pubDate>
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      <description>&lt;img src="http://www.jaxpad.com/files/user_pic/file/1340/small/avatar2.png" style="padding:5px;float:left;"&gt;Yeah post more of him if there's more to show. Hehe. And cool on Batman, caught it this past weekend and really enjoyed it! I dunno if I was bowled over quite as much as all the critics and word-of-mouth might have you believe, but still was really good! Aside from Batman's growly voice, I dunno why they did that. :P</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 01:43:15 -0000</pubDate>
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      <description>&lt;img src="http://www.jaxpad.com/files/user_pic/file/176/small/Avatar_Jasper.jpg" style="padding:5px;float:left;"&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;strong&gt;KoOkY! said:&lt;/strong&gt; Yeah great work on the details of the jewelry he has on too! Simple pose maybe but nice details regardless. I know you can't see much of his lower half, though that part seems a bit small or short compared to the upper half of him? Though I know the focus was more on the upper body so...&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yeah I was thinking that too, Kooky - about his bottom half seeming small, but his legs flare out just below that - I just didn't include that bit. All the body builders in my reference pics seem to have pretty small waists in comparison to their big chests and arms. Perhaps his leg muscles should show up a little higher. That might help. Well maybe I'll tweak it later. Right now I'm off to see Batman. See ya!</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 23:33:43 -0000</pubDate>
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      <description>&lt;img src="http://www.jaxpad.com/files/user_pic/file/1340/small/avatar2.png" style="padding:5px;float:left;"&gt;Yeah great work on the details of the jewelry he has on too! Simple pose maybe but nice details regardless. I know you can't see much of his lower half, though that part seems a bit small or short compared to the upper half of him? Though I know the focus was more on the upper body so...</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 14:54:17 -0000</pubDate>
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      <description>&lt;img src="http://www.jaxpad.com/files/user_pic/file/1416/small/kynlargeletterconjaxpad.jpg" style="padding:5px;float:left;"&gt;I love the minotaur, Vizon.  He's looking quite cool.  =)</description>
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