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Hesitant about Applying

Oh I don't know about photomanipulation, but I did some myself (refer below). Methinks originality counts for a lot more than textures.

PS I find it worrying that I found this on your DA page --> http://rainblossom.deviantart.com/art/i-can-has-maturity-73060892

Silly question, but I hope you asked Nevar/Chlorophyta's permission to do such :3 (as with any artist)

Sudan Red said:
PS I find it worrying that I found this on your DA page --> http://rainblossom.deviantart.com/art/i-can-has-maturity-73060892>

O_o im a bit confused as to whom you are addressing this to..?

Sudan Red said: Oh I don't know about photomanipulation, but I did some myself (refer below). Methinks originality counts for a lot more than textures.

PS I find it worrying that I found this on your DA page --> http://rainblossom.deviantart.com/art/i-can-has-maturity-73060892>

I'm not trying to be rude or anything, but did you even read the description I wrote to go with that image? I clearly stated that I used Nevar's image as a reference.

http://rainblossom.jaxpad.com/image/14109

http://rainblossom.deviantart.com/art/My-Holy-Hell-73149313

I didn't trace it, if that's what you are trying to accuse me of in your "photomanipulation." I've been working on this picture for some time, and I couldn't get the right feel for it. I came across Nevar!'s sketch and used it as a reference. (I have the pencil thumbnail sketches if you "need proof".) I didn't say I was using this picture IN my portfolio, I was merely using it as an example for what I do with backgrounds, nor am I making profit off this picture in any way. It's an entirely personal image that I posted here because I had a question about what kind of backgrounds were okay to use.

I also find it ironic that you would bring up that stamp I made, but I won't say why here because I'm not trying to be rude. I can see your concern, and I appreciate it, and I also know that I posted this thread under "Would this be a good portfolio piece" when it clearly should go somewhere else. I'm sorry that I didn't state that it was referenced in the post above, and I'm sorry that you feel the need to be immature about it. Like I said, I'm NOT using this as a portfolio piece and I'm NOT making any profit off of the image. If Nevar! has a problem with me posting it, (and believe me, I will ask her) then I will of course take it down, but so long as I give credit I don't see what the problem is.

Naryu / 成美 said: Silly question, but I hope you asked Nevar/Chlorophyta's permission to do such :3 (as with any artist)

O_o im a bit confused as to whom you are addressing this to..?

She was talking to me; the colored image is mine. Funny, looks like my original post is gone. Must be a bug. O_o

*wants to go into some big rant about tracing, but decided just to cross her arms and shake her head at you*

I will say one thing because it is a good point and not just a rant. If you are going to copy/"reference" a picture...ask first THEN draw...not the other way around.

Emerald Sage said: I will say one thing because it is a good point and not just a rant. If you are going to copy/"reference" a picture...ask first THEN draw...not the other way around.

Right, thanks. I see the drama it's caused and I'm going to heed your advice. Thanks for not making a huge ranty deal out of it, I do appreciate that.

I emailed Chlorophyta and am awaiting her response, just for anyone else who wants to make a huge deal out of this.

Naryu / 成美 said: Silly question, but I hope you asked Nevar/Chlorophyta's permission to do such :3 (as with any artist)

Sudan Red said:
PS I find it worrying that I found this on your DA page --> http://rainblossom.deviantart.com/art/i-can-has-maturity-73060892>

O_o im a bit confused as to whom you are addressing this to..?

The original post was deleted, as well it should be.

To Rainblossom:
My dear, I don't know what game you think you are playing, but I will join Emerald Sage in severe crossing of arms and shaking of head. I did in fact check your DA page, and you did in fact NOT have a link to Nevar/Chlorophyta's page at that time. You only added it once you got "caught".

I know I am risking a rant here, but let me just say that there is a huge difference between "referencing" and "tracing" that you still have to learn. If you think artistic plagiarism isn't a big deal, think again.

Guys. Chill. I go to work for 9 hours and this as what I come home to?

Come on. You don't have to chew her out. Maybe she did things a little backwards, but it should have been between me and her. Yes, she should have emailed me first, but I feel bad that she's now going through her galleries and deleting stuff. =(

I didn't chew her out. Just gave her important info for the future and a scold. Believe me I can chew out much more angrily then that XD

Though I must say I do not feel sorry that she is deleting pictures if they are ones she traced.

Calm down, everyone. If something like this ever happens again, it would be a lot more constructive to email the ArtSpots staff and let them know about the situation, so that they can help the artist's in question discuss what's happened. :)

Let's move on!

Rainblossom, your art is good, and I see no reason for you to copy existing artist's poses! Why not draw some animals from real life? Even drawing from photos of real animals can help you adapt to a style all your own, and drawing from life improves your art hundredfold.

I would like to mention something as an aside, and with no intention to scold.

Keep in mind that if the ArtSpots reviewers see an image in your application that they recognize as a copy of an existing artist's piece, even if just the pose as in this piece, your application would get an automatic decline. We strive for originality at ArtSpots! We want every part of your picture to be from your mind and your pen. :)

I would love to see some more work from you. Please feel free to post your other art here for further critique.

Thanks, Gauguin! You've said it much better than I could. ^______^

I am amazingly chill. As Emerald Sage rightly said, if I had wanted a chew-out-fest, it would have been a lot worse than this. I merely made an observation and backed it up. Again agreeing with Emerald Sage that if traced pictures were deleted, I am not sorry to see them go. I won't apologise for disapproving of shady practices.

Aaaaand, moving on! :)

I'd like to thank Chlorophyta and Gauguin for being polite and kind, but Sudan Red and Emerald Sage were right. It was dishonest of me to use Chlorophyta's picture without asking her first, it would still be wrong even if I did ask her. It was wrong of me to post it without giving her credit, and I acknowledge that. I'd like to make a formal apology to Chlorophyta, and let you all know the image has been deleted and I will not be posting it anywhere again, nor will I be tracing/using other artists' pictures as references.

On a side note, however, I'd like to say that all of the other pictures in my galleries were my original creations. As I stated before, I'd been working on this particular picture for some time, and I couldn't get the right feel for it. It was a very personal image and I wanted the cat's pose to reflect my own feelings. I came across Chlorophyta's picture and I saw it was exactly what I wanted, so I copied it. This was wrong of me, and it won't happen again.

Also, Gauguin, I believe this post is in the wrong forum, because I was not asking if my picture would be a good portfolio piece, but rather if the fact that I used textures from stock websites in the background would be okay for portfolio pieces, because in the sample portfolio guidelines it says: "Photographic and altered photographic backgrounds are a big negative." I had no intention of submitting this image in my portfolio, it was the background I was worried about.

Again, I'd like to apologize to everyone, especially Chlorophyta, for the drama this has caused. It won't happen again.

I'd also like to thank everyone for dealing with this in a mature manner.

All great Artist's learn from the best